. >> shepard: pakistan, china and iran will play major roles over there you said. his goal now is just to get as much money as he can? >> well, you know, i was talking to the general who runs an area in the north there and he said why are the americans letting the communists in. hamid karzai is signing deals to protect afghanistan. he wants us to protect them and let other people grab all the wealth that is still to be tapped. >> shepard: there has never been any real indication the afghan forces were able to do much of anything. fewer than 5% of people with read or write. >> i was told that the afghan forces trained by the russians were better are trained on the afghan forces they have now. they are very good but they don't have air support and we have to provide all of the major intel and observation and air lift and logistics that they need to fight the taliban. >> shepard: to what end? >> i really don't know. hamid karzai is doubling down on the taliban and that means the south will love it but the north will not be very happy. >> shepard: robert young peloton